This sequel to Stein's Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas has been long misunderstood and neglected. An account of her experiences resulting from writing a bestseller, Everybody's Autobiography is funny and engaging, but also a seering meditation on the meaning of identity, success, and America. Stein at her most accessible and her most serious. Rejacketed and reprinted.
Paperback
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328 pages
Published
February 1st 2004
by Exact Change
(first published 1937)
After all one is brought up not a Christian but in Christian thinking and I can remember being very excited when I first read the Old Testament to see that they never spoke of a future life, there was a God there was eternity but there was no future life and I found how naturally that worried me, that there is no limit to space and yet one is living in a limited space and inside oneself there is no sense of time but actually one is always living in time, and there is the will to live but really
After all one is brought up not a Christian but in Christian thinking and I can remember being very excited when I first read the Old Testament to see that they never spoke of a future life, there was a God there was eternity but there was no future life and I found how naturally that worried me, that there is no limit to space and yet one is living in a limited space and inside oneself there is no sense of time but actually one is always living in time, and there is the will to live but really when one is completely wise that is when one is a genius the things that make you a genius make you live but have nothing to do with being living that is with the struggle for existence. Really genius that is the existing without any internal recognition of time has nothing to do with the will to live, and yet they use it like that. And so naturally science is not interesting since it is the statement of observation and the laws of science are like all laws they are paper laws, as the Chinese call them, they make believe that they do something so as to keep every one from knowing that they are not going on living. But after all I was a natural believer in republics a natural believer in science a natural believer in progress and I began to write. After all I was a natural believer just as the present generation are natural believers in Soviets and proletarian literature and social laws and everything although really it does not really make them be living any more than science and progress and democracies did me. This is what I mean. After all if you ask a question unless not even then when you are very little is the answer interesting, if there is an answer why listen to it if you can ask another question, listening to an answer makes you know that time is existing but asking a question makes you think that perhaps it does not.
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Jesse
Are you going to review? Would love your thoughts on this.
Aug 21, 2011 01:29PM
Ben
It's Stein on writing, identity, fame, and America. Not sure what else there is to say.
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Anything is an autobiography but this was a conversation.
It's Stein on writing, identity, fame, and America. Not sure what else there is to say.
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Anything is an autobiography but this was a conversation.
I said to [Dashiell] Hammett there is something that is puzzling. In the nineteenth century the men when they were writing did invent all kinds and a great number of men. The women on the other hand never could invent women they always made the women be themselves seen splendidly or sadly or heroically or beautifully or despairingly or gently, and they never could make any other kind of woman. From Charlotte Bronte to George Eliot and many years later this was true. Now in the twentieth century it is the men who do it. The men all write about themselves, they are always themselves as strong or weak or mysterious or passionate or drunk or controlled but always themselves as the women used to do in the nineteenth century. Now you yourself always do it now why is it. He said it's simple. In the nineteenth century men were confident, the women were not but in the twentieth century the men have no confidence and so they have to make themselves as you say more beautiful more intriguing more everything and they cannot make any other man because they have to hold on to themselves not having any confidence. Now I he went on have even thought of doing a father and a son to see if in that way I could make another one. That's interesting I said.
Anyway autobiography is easy like it or not autobiography is easy for any one and so this is to be everybody's autobiography.
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Aug 21, 2011 01:49PM
This was probably the most lucid of Gertrude Stein's writing. I am not sure if that is a good thing, though, because it made me dizzy. Stein did have medical training, so maybe most of her writing was crafted to work a certain way on the brain. Perhaps the woman was the genius she claimed to be.
Even if one has a knack for arresting observation, referring repeatedly to oneself as a genius will annoy yes it will annoy one's readers even if the readers like the book yes they like it.
"Outros povos dizem que entendem ou não entendem alguma coisa mas os americanos realmente se preocupam com entender ou não entender alguma coisa. Afinal você está mais ou menos em comunicação e de qualquer maneira se você muda você continua a dizer isso mais uma vez, e afinal a mecânica é uma coisa empurra outra coisa mas quando acontece de ficarem juntas sem empurrões isto é apenas ficar juntas dizendo alguma coisa é claro que isso não tem nada a ver com entender. A única coisa que qualquer pes
"Outros povos dizem que entendem ou não entendem alguma coisa mas os americanos realmente se preocupam com entender ou não entender alguma coisa. Afinal você está mais ou menos em comunicação e de qualquer maneira se você muda você continua a dizer isso mais uma vez, e afinal a mecânica é uma coisa empurra outra coisa mas quando acontece de ficarem juntas sem empurrões isto é apenas ficar juntas dizendo alguma coisa é claro que isso não tem nada a ver com entender. A única coisa que qualquer pessoa consegue entender é a mecânica e é ela que faz com que todo mundo sinta que é alguma coisa quando está falando dela. Com relação a todas as outras coisas ninguém é da mesma opinião ninguém com o que fala quer dizer a mesma coisa que o outro está dizendo e só quem está falando pensa que está querendo dizer o que está falando embora saiba muito bem que isso não é o que está falando. Essa é a razão porque todo mundo acha a máquinas tão maravilhosas elas só são maravilhosas porque são a única coisa que diz a mesma coisa a qualquer um e cada um e consequentemente se pode passar sem ela, por que não, afinal não se pode existir sem se estar vivendo e viver é uma coisa que ninguém consegue compreender ao passo que é possível existir sem as máquinas isso já ocorreu mas as máquinas não podem existir sem você isso faz com que as máquinas pareçam fazer o que fazem. Bem seja como for depois de todo mundo estar cheio de qualquer coisa sempre se consegue viver sem ela."
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I took this book from our castle in Ireland after it became clear that I wasn't going to have enough books to read on the plane home (plus my five-hour layover in Newark). I will now send it back, because I don't want bad book karma. It was interesting to know how bewildering it was for her to achieve widespread success with The Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas. I enjoy the flow and rhythm of how she writes, and/but it takes some time to catch it. And some of what she says could be said no other
I took this book from our castle in Ireland after it became clear that I wasn't going to have enough books to read on the plane home (plus my five-hour layover in Newark). I will now send it back, because I don't want bad book karma. It was interesting to know how bewildering it was for her to achieve widespread success with The Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas. I enjoy the flow and rhythm of how she writes, and/but it takes some time to catch it. And some of what she says could be said no other way and still be that perfect. I still I wonder how she managed to have so much free time and how easily she had money, which seems to be a key component in her composure and general serenity (this is going from what I got out of the writing, not some general commentary on her life, about which I know almost nothing). She'll talk to anyone, ask them anything, and make people think about the way they talk and the way they think about things. There was a photo of a crowd at William & Mary (supposedly she was in the center of it), and her ideas about restoration--making old things new and new things old--belong somewhere in the rewrite of my dissertation, when it explodes to become something else. I have a couple of quotations to put here, but I'll have to find them first.
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Recommends it for:
people who think they know how to read
i have lent this book to a friend, and we were recently discussing how reading it is like learning to read again. (especailly if you've never read stien before, which i had not.) the strange, long rhythm of stein's sentences forces you to slow down, and you discover that you need to re-read sentences (or entire paragraphs) to discern the meaning. i guess this is why some people say reading stein is difficult, but being generally quite a fast (and perhaps arrogant?) reader, i was really pleased a
i have lent this book to a friend, and we were recently discussing how reading it is like learning to read again. (especailly if you've never read stien before, which i had not.) the strange, long rhythm of stein's sentences forces you to slow down, and you discover that you need to re-read sentences (or entire paragraphs) to discern the meaning. i guess this is why some people say reading stein is difficult, but being generally quite a fast (and perhaps arrogant?) reader, i was really pleased and surprised by how this book re-acquainted me with the act of reading, and produced a memorable experience.
(oh! and it's funny! which i didn't expect)
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Her sentences still make my head hurt sometimes, but I found myself captivated by Gertrude Stein and her account of what her sudden celebrity meant to her. Moreso than in "Alice B. Toklas," I can understand how she could have been a much-liked and sought-after personality. Her account of her trips to Chicago and tour of the Midwest particularly resonate. Now I have to find out the identity of the St. Paul newspaper reporter who almost lost his job by opening his story about her visit with an hom
Her sentences still make my head hurt sometimes, but I found myself captivated by Gertrude Stein and her account of what her sudden celebrity meant to her. Moreso than in "Alice B. Toklas," I can understand how she could have been a much-liked and sought-after personality. Her account of her trips to Chicago and tour of the Midwest particularly resonate. Now I have to find out the identity of the St. Paul newspaper reporter who almost lost his job by opening his story about her visit with an homage to the way she writes.
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Only Gertrude Stein would have the sheer balls to write a book with this title. Oh, Ms. Stein, the issues I have with your attitude are legion, but you sure can write. I find Stein's non-fiction more compelling than her fiction; the authorial chutzpah of it all is part of what interests me. And this is an interesting book full of name-dropping and puffery and Stein's usual fabulously pell-mell circuitous circular prose.
This is the bk where she supposedly says "there's no there there" about Oakland. She's actually referring to the house she grew up in.
The bk describes her coming back to Oakland and discovering that the house she grew up in has been torn down. That's what she is referring to. Read this bk and I bet you can figure it out.
Philosophy, psychology, politics, history, literary and artistic criticism...all packaged in a seemingly endless stream of "linear" observation and amiable, anarchic writer-to-reader conversation. Simply a delight.
Eh. This wasn't as fun as the Autobiography of Alice B Toklas - it got a bit much. It was less about the gossipy doings of her circle and more and more about the nature of art and genius.
Gertrude Stein was an American writer who spent most of her life in France, and who became a catalyst in the development of modern art and literature. Her life was marked by two primary relationships, the first with her brother Leo Stein, from 1874-1914, and the second with
Alice B. Toklas
, from 1907 until Stein's death in 1946. Stein shared her salon at 27 rue de Fleurus, Paris, first with Leo an
Gertrude Stein was an American writer who spent most of her life in France, and who became a catalyst in the development of modern art and literature. Her life was marked by two primary relationships, the first with her brother Leo Stein, from 1874-1914, and the second with
Alice B. Toklas
, from 1907 until Stein's death in 1946. Stein shared her salon at 27 rue de Fleurus, Paris, first with Leo and then with Alice. Throughout her lifetime, Stein cultivated significant tertiary relationships with well-known members of the avant garde artistic and literary world of her time.
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