An enthusiastic and daring thinker relates a spellbinding story of his philosophical and spiritual enlightenment — and the tale of his tragic personal life as well. Peter Abélard paints an absorbing portrait of monastic and scholastic life in 12th-century Paris and recounts one of history's most famous love stories, his doomed romance with Heloise.
I've never understood why the story of Abelard and Heloise is considered romantic. Abelard was a self-centered whiner who seems to have had no reservations about violating his monastic vows and the trust of his employer. He finagled a teaching position with the plan of beating his student so that she would give into his sexual demands:
he had entrusted a tender lamb to the care of a ravenous wolf. When he had thus given her into my charge, not alone to be taught but even to be disciplined, what
I've never understood why the story of Abelard and Heloise is considered romantic. Abelard was a self-centered whiner who seems to have had no reservations about violating his monastic vows and the trust of his employer. He finagled a teaching position with the plan of beating his student so that she would give into his sexual demands:
he had entrusted a tender lamb to the care of a ravenous wolf. When he had thus given her into my charge, not alone to be taught but even to be disciplined, what had he done save given free scope to my desires... to bend her to my will with threats and blows if I failed to do so with caresses?
Is this an interesting and revelatory passage concerning how ideas of "love" change over time and cultures? Yes. Is it romantic? Not to me, at least. I'd totally be there with Heloise's brothers, castrating the teacher who knocked up my little sister. This story also peeves me because it serves as an exemplar against education for women.
Of course Abelard never blames himself for any of his problems; it is all due to the jealousy of others. For a text that is supposed to be romantic, Abelard spends a lot more time bragging about how brilliant he is and whining about how everyone is mean to him than thinking about Heloise. I suspect that most of his persecutions occurred because he was an intolerable prick.
And who the fuck names their baby Astrolabe?
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"Hi, I'm Abelard, a brilliant and tragic figure. I'm going to tell you about my lifelong devotion to my scholarship and my religion. I will also explain how I dealt with that whole Heloise thing everyone talks about--how we loved each other truly and profoundly but our morals and stations in life kept us from ever being together in more than spirit."
What I got:
"Hi, I'm Abelard, an insufferable narcissist with a persecution complex. Everywhere I go, people slander and even try to
What I expected:
"Hi, I'm Abelard, a brilliant and tragic figure. I'm going to tell you about my lifelong devotion to my scholarship and my religion. I will also explain how I dealt with that whole Heloise thing everyone talks about--how we loved each other truly and profoundly but our morals and stations in life kept us from ever being together in more than spirit."
What I got:
"Hi, I'm Abelard, an insufferable narcissist with a persecution complex. Everywhere I go, people slander and even try to kill me because my logical proofs regarding the unity of the Trinity are so much cleverer than theirs. I mean the very smartest people tend to love me--a bunch even follow me around all the time, begging me to teach them everything I know--but everyone else is too stupid to see how awesome I am. I kind of remind myself of Jesus in that respect, actually. Well, maybe in more than that respect. I mean I AM pretty perfect. Also, at one point I met this girl Heloise and we were both super smart and good-looking so we figured it'd make sense to shack up for a bit, but then she got pregnant and her dad was pissed and that was over. Oh well. Did I mention that I'm really awesome?"
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Funniest twelfth-century book ever. I'm an obvious Abelard-devotee (despite being an atheist, who cares) and love him and his work to bits, but this book really is extremely underrated. It's bitter and angry, but that just makes it rather hilarious. Anyone with knowledge of all the great twelfth-century intrigues within the church and intellectual world would love this, but perhaps everyone else would as well. Give it a shot, it's very short and you've got nothing to loose. One of my all-time fa
Funniest twelfth-century book ever. I'm an obvious Abelard-devotee (despite being an atheist, who cares) and love him and his work to bits, but this book really is extremely underrated. It's bitter and angry, but that just makes it rather hilarious. Anyone with knowledge of all the great twelfth-century intrigues within the church and intellectual world would love this, but perhaps everyone else would as well. Give it a shot, it's very short and you've got nothing to loose. One of my all-time favourites.
(For those who are unfamiliar with Abelard, he was a twelfth century theologian/philosopher with a rather tragic life. He fell in love with Heloise, whose uncle had him castrated (long story, but basically the uncle thought Abelard wouldn't marry Heloise, which he actually had, and thought that Abelard would leave Heloise alone with their child, and so the uncle got pissed off and had two men castrate Abelard. After the incident he became a monk, and Heloise a nun. They wrote many letters to each other, and those letters are perhaps the reason for their fame), he almost got lynched while being abbot in Brittany for disagreeing with his monks and he got excommunicated by the church twice, despite being a rather devoted Christian. Needless to say, he wasn't a happy bunny after all of this, and thus he wrote this "Historia Calamitatum".)
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This autobiography has a little about Abelard's childhood, a lot on his college years and early years as a teacher, his relationship with Heloise, and his years as a monk. He wrote it when he was about 53 years old. I found it irritating how he was constantly paranoid that others were out to do him harm- he's just obsessed with this. I think he would have been happiest if he had filled a wagon full of books and then gone to live in a nice quiet cave. I liked how when he wanted to marry Heloise s
This autobiography has a little about Abelard's childhood, a lot on his college years and early years as a teacher, his relationship with Heloise, and his years as a monk. He wrote it when he was about 53 years old. I found it irritating how he was constantly paranoid that others were out to do him harm- he's just obsessed with this. I think he would have been happiest if he had filled a wagon full of books and then gone to live in a nice quiet cave. I liked how when he wanted to marry Heloise she did her best to dissuade him, saying that he was too intelligent to be "chained to a wife" and he shouldn't waste his time chasing around after a bunch of kids. If only more people thought like that today.
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Peter Abelard was not well loved by his contemporaries - they were afraid of his new scholastic approach to analyzing fine points of scripture; they resented the brilliance and creativity of his mind; they were furious at his popularity with the young students at the University in Paris. Of course, his dalliance with Heloise gave them ammunition to discredit him - not only did he lose his cojones - he lost his position as lecturer and served out the rest of his days as abbot of a monastery. That
Peter Abelard was not well loved by his contemporaries - they were afraid of his new scholastic approach to analyzing fine points of scripture; they resented the brilliance and creativity of his mind; they were furious at his popularity with the young students at the University in Paris. Of course, his dalliance with Heloise gave them ammunition to discredit him - not only did he lose his cojones - he lost his position as lecturer and served out the rest of his days as abbot of a monastery. That's not all there is to the story - but it's a start.
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intellectuals and a pioneer of scholastic philosophy! The book, also called Histria Calamitatum, narrates Abelard’s life of challenge and threats, sad and tragic events, and the frequent attacks (and persecutions) against his instructions and interpretations, as a teacher, philosopher, and lover of Heloise. His misfortunes included many, for example, one of his books on theology that addressed the nature of Trinity was burned by the authority/Council; he suffered from the envy of many rivals, in
intellectuals and a pioneer of scholastic philosophy! The book, also called Histria Calamitatum, narrates Abelard’s life of challenge and threats, sad and tragic events, and the frequent attacks (and persecutions) against his instructions and interpretations, as a teacher, philosopher, and lover of Heloise. His misfortunes included many, for example, one of his books on theology that addressed the nature of Trinity was burned by the authority/Council; he suffered from the envy of many rivals, including his own teachers; he was castrated by the uncle of his beloved Heloise which caused him deep psychological pain and shame, and he spent his life struggling in his career as well as living. The book sheds lights on the intellectual climate of the time (the medieval), which basically centered on Christianity and theology, the monastic life, the interests of people then. I particularly loved the part related to his love/marriage to Heloise, and the way he used for coping with the tragic experience he suffered (i.e. being castrated), through cognitive reframing, that is, considering this event as a punishment by God to the part of his body which committed that sin, thus accepting it with humiliation and penitence. His love and respect to Heloise were also so impressive.
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I found Abelard to be egotistical and obnoxious. He has a real victim complex and really pats himself on the back for totally taking advantage of Heloise, who has a totally different version of things.
Too much whining and griping; not enough theological reflection on suffering from a supposedly brilliant mind. He's just an arrogant prick, a case study in what theologians hope not to become.
I actually read this book online through Project Gutenburg. It is a memoir telling the story of Abelard's life and adventures, with particular focus on his epic romance. But, of course, this is a story which took place during the 12th century AD, adding an interesting layer of historical interest to what otherwise reads as a rather modern tale.
This was the funniest book I've ever read that was old. The guy spends the majority of the book telling you how much better he is than everyone else, and though he acts humble on occasion, for the most part he's an incredibly intelligent jerk. No wonder everyone hated him :P
I did feel bad for him once I realized what Heloise's uncle did to him after the baby conceived in wedlock... Yeah. That was awkward (and sounded painful).
But yes---this book was absolutely hilarious for the most part, and q
This was the funniest book I've ever read that was old. The guy spends the majority of the book telling you how much better he is than everyone else, and though he acts humble on occasion, for the most part he's an incredibly intelligent jerk. No wonder everyone hated him :P
I did feel bad for him once I realized what Heloise's uncle did to him after the baby conceived in wedlock... Yeah. That was awkward (and sounded painful).
But yes---this book was absolutely hilarious for the most part, and quite short (I read most of it in one night). I recommend this book for certain.
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Like watching video of a wreck, in slow motion, played over and over again. The greatest misfortune of the logician and theologian, Pierre Abelard, was his compulsion to humiliate the rich and powerful, despite the severe penalties for doing so in 12th Century France.
Sadly, the legend of his love for Heloise also suffers in his retelling. He seems more concerned with his reputation than her welfare. Would've been better for his reputation if he'd never written this short memoir.
Un documento unico, l'epistolario tra Abelardo ed Eloisa ci mostra uno squarcio unico dell'anima di due personaggi unici. L'amore tra il grande filosofo ed Eloisa, figura di donna unica per la sua modernità sconvolgente è tanto struggente ed emblematica quanto quella di Romeo e Giulietta. Con la differenza di essere una storia vera. La versione garzanti è perfetta nella completezza delle note a pié di pagina e dell'ottimo livello della traduzione.
Assolutamente da leggere.
As a memoir, this book is middling. It has its moments, but it's not truly memorable. At the same time, though, it's a fascinating insight into the medieval mindset and what it meant to be a scholar in Abelard's day. In my opinion, it's a completely worthwhile read solely on the strength of its interest as a historical document. My only reservation is that this translation tends to be a bit lifeless.
Peter Abelard was the preeminent philosopher of the twelfth century and perhaps the greatest logician of the middle ages. During his life he was equally famous as a poet and a composer, and might also have ranked as the preeminent theologian of his day had his ideas earned more converts and less condemnation. In all areas Abelard was brilliant, innovative, and controversial. He was a genius. He kn
Peter Abelard was the preeminent philosopher of the twelfth century and perhaps the greatest logician of the middle ages. During his life he was equally famous as a poet and a composer, and might also have ranked as the preeminent theologian of his day had his ideas earned more converts and less condemnation. In all areas Abelard was brilliant, innovative, and controversial. He was a genius. He knew it, and made no apologies. His vast knowledge, wit, charm, and even arrogance drew a generation of Europe’s finest minds to Paris to learn from him.
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“For my part, the more I went forward in the study of letters, and ever more easily, the greater became the ardour of my devotion to them, until in truth I was so enthralled by my passion for learning that, gladly leaving to my brothers the pomp of glory in arms, the right of heritage and all the honours that should have been mine as the eldest born, I fled utterly from the court of Mars that I might win learning in the bosom of Minerva. And -- since I found the armory of logical reasoning more to my liking than the other forms of philosophy, I exchanged all other weapons for these, and to the prizes of victory in war I preferred the battle of minds in disputation.”
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